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morelse [] b = b
 
morelse [] b = b
 
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The left-biased implementation of mplus for the Maybe monad should be used as an implementation of morelse, but it is also possible to give an unbiased mplus for Maybe:
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instance MonadPlus Maybe where
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mplus (Just a) Nothing = a
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mplus Nothing (Just a) = a
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mplus _ _ = Nothing
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instance MonadOr Maybe where
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morelse (Just a) _ = Just a
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morelse _ b = b
 
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The MonadOr idea is a solid one, but it seems to be taking the monad in a different direction. So if there's a good match in Control.Applicative or Parsec, that might be the best place to develop that idea. -- Galen
 
The MonadOr idea is a solid one, but it seems to be taking the monad in a different direction. So if there's a good match in Control.Applicative or Parsec, that might be the best place to develop that idea. -- Galen
   
The default <hask>mplus</hask> doesn't satisfy <hask>mplus mzero b = b</hask>, so you lose Monoid which seems to be the only thing people actually agree on :)
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The default <hask>mplus</hask> doesn't satisfy <hask>mplus mzero b = b</hask>, so you lose Monoid which seems to be the only thing people actually agree on :) -- [[User:Benmachine|Benmachine]]
 
Also, am I missing something or does Maybe satisfy the Left Distribution laws too, in which case can't we just use that? The laws are actually quite similar for some right-lazy definitions of mplus. -- [[User:Benmachine|Benmachine]]
 
   
 
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Revision as of 01:01, 18 May 2011

The MonadPlus class is ambiguous: while all instances satisfy Monoid and Left Zero, some such as [] satisfy Left Distribution, while others such as Maybe and IO satisfy Left Catch.

Proposal

It is proposed that MonadPlus be split like this:

MonadZero

class Monad m => MonadZero m where
   mzero :: m a

satisfying Left Zero:

mzero >>= k = mzero

MonadPlus

class MonadZero m => MonadPlus m where
   mplus :: m a -> m a -> m a

satisfying Monoid and Left Distribution:

mplus mzero b = b
mplus a mzero = a
mplus (mplus a b) c = mplus a (mplus b c)
mplus a b >>= k = mplus (a >>= k) (b >>= k)

MonadOr

class MonadZero m => MonadOr m where
   morelse :: m a -> m a -> m a

satisfying Monoid and Left Catch:

morelse mzero b = b
morelse a mzero = a
morelse (morelse a b) c = morelse a (morelse b c)
morelse (return a) b = return a

Instances of both

Some types could be made instances of both. For instance:

instance MonadOr [] where
   morelse [] b = b
   morelse a b = a

The left-biased implementation of mplus for the Maybe monad should be used as an implementation of morelse, but it is also possible to give an unbiased mplus for Maybe:

instance MonadPlus Maybe where
   mplus (Just a) Nothing = a
   mplus Nothing (Just a) = a
   mplus _ _ = Nothing

instance MonadOr Maybe where
   morelse (Just a) _ = Just a
   morelse _ b = b

Discussion

Given that Control.Applicative(Alternative) now defines a class which seems innately bound to Left Catch, at least in spirit, it seems to make sense to clean up MonadPlus such that all instances obey Left Distribution? --sclv

I'd actually suggest almost the opposite, that MonadPlus be dispensed with and merged into Monad. The (controversial) fail method looks no different than an mzero, except the string argument; indeed, so far as I know fail s is just mzero for any MonadPlus. MonadPlus is also barely made use of; just guard and msum in the standard? To be concrete, I would make the following the default definitions (in Monad):

mzero = fail "something"
mplus a b = a

These are thus somewhat trivial by default, but having msum=head and guard=assert (roughly; more like (`assert` return ())) for less-flexible monads doesn't seem actually wrong and could be useful fallbacks.

I also question the claim that Maybe and IO should be thought of as "left catch". IO is not even in MonadPlus, and I don't see how it can be meaningfully in any way other than the above. Maybe does satisfy Left Catch, but it seems almost like that's only because it's such a simple monad (holding only one value). It is a useful observation that it fails Left Distribution, but that may only call for weaker Monad/Plus conditions.

The MonadOr idea is a solid one, but it seems to be taking the monad in a different direction. So if there's a good match in Control.Applicative or Parsec, that might be the best place to develop that idea. -- Galen

The default mplus doesn't satisfy mplus mzero b = b, so you lose Monoid which seems to be the only thing people actually agree on :) -- Benmachine