https://wiki.haskell.org/index.php?title=Talk:State_Monad&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:State Monad - Revision history2024-03-19T10:39:08ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.35.5https://wiki.haskell.org/index.php?title=Talk:State_Monad&diff=55507&oldid=prevGwideman: /* Pervasive "simplification" is really an obfuscation */ new section2013-03-03T00:18:11Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Pervasive "simplification" is really an obfuscation: </span> new section</span></p>
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</table>Jpfhttps://wiki.haskell.org/index.php?title=Talk:State_Monad&diff=55162&oldid=prevJpf: New page: Can someone please rewrite this page? After going through it a number of times, I feel strongly that there is no "intuition" here as claimed to help understand how State actually works.2012-12-26T04:52:00Z<p>New page: Can someone please rewrite this page? After going through it a number of times, I feel strongly that there is no "intuition" here as claimed to help understand how State actually works.</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>Can someone please rewrite this page? After going through it a number of times, I feel strongly that there is no "intuition" here as claimed to help understand how State actually works.</div>Jpf