Web/Comparison of Happstack, Snap and Yesod
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Note: Work in progress. I will outline planned sections in headings momentarily.
There is no existing complete comparison of Happstack, Snap and Yesod. Such a thing helps people to choose and feel they've made a well-founded decision.
1 The home page
I'll start with the web sites at first impression.
- Happstack's web site is simple and clean.
- Snap's web site is pretty and professionally designed.
- Yesod's web site is okay, good links.
Next, the main maintainers of the projects is handy to know:
- Happstack — There is no link on the homepage about maintainers, but I garnered Jeremy Shaw, (Figured out from here, “Maintainer of Happstack, the Haskell web application framework: <http://www.happstack.com/>”) aka stepcut. I can't tell if there are any more maintainers, the darcs history doesn't show any major contributors. A list of contributors, I suppose, can be seen on the patch-tag homepage, I'm not going to bother trying to convert usernames to real names. (Lemmih, Saizan, alexjacobson, creighton, mightybyte, stepcut, tphyahoo.)
- Snap — Many are listed as ‘contributors’ on the about page, but Gregory Collins and Doug Beardsley are certainly maintainers, the rest I'm not sure, may be just contributors; (Shu-yu Guo, James Sanders, Carl Howells, Shane O'Brien, Ozgun Ataman, Chris Smith, Jurriën Stutterheim.) the site doesn't distinguish.
- Yesod — Michael Snoyman, Greg Weber, (Garnered from the contributors page, via Community.) there are other contributors listed, some of which might be maintainers. (Felipe Lessa, Patrick Brisbin, Luite Stegeman, Hiromi ISHII, Kazu Yamamoto. See the page for past contributors.)
- Happstack — Garnered from the Community page, the HappS mailing list, #happs on Freenode IRC, with IRC logs, Google Code for issue tracking, a wiki, Twitter, a Facebook group.
- Snap — Garnered from the About page, the Snap mailing list #snapframework on Freenode IRC, Github for issue tracking.
- Yesod — Garnered from the Community Resources, StackOverflow, a Google Group, the web-devel mailing list, (Which, due to the large proportion of Yesod-related questions, has essentially become ‘yesod-devel’.) #yesod on Freenode IRC, Github for issue tracking, a wiki for posting documentation.
There is roughly the same set of documentation for each, varying in side and detail, with a quickstart for each, more complete tutorials, and haddock API documentation.
- Happstack — A small tutorial covering writing a simple program, a larger crash course cover routing, templating, request handling, static files and database state, and examples. And haddock docs.
- Snap — A simple quickstart guide, a slightly larger tutorial similar to happstack's, a tutorial on snaplets (Snap's means of extension), a tutorial on heist (Snap's templating) and haddock docs.
- Yesod — a simple quickstart guide similar to Snap's, screencasts, an online book similar to Happstack's crash course, covering templates, widgets, routing, forms, sessions, databases, deployment, authentication, scaffolding, internationalisation, and examples. And haddock docs.
5 Use Cases
It's interesting to know who is using these frameworks.
- Matt Gruen used Happstack to create Hackage 2.0.
- The Happstack homepage is written with Happstack.
- Creative Prompts — A site for exchanging story ideas -- which was developed but never got around to promoting.
- See Reason — A site which allows you to construct and prove arguments using first order logic. This site is in public beta.
- A (4chan clone) image board (not running anywhere).
- Gitit is a Happstack wiki app.
- Patch-Tag provides hosting for Darcs repositories and Gitit wikis.
- hpaste — the Haskell pastebin.
- Darcs Den — a place to share your darcs projects and collaborate with others.
- housetab.org — a webapp for sharing expenses (source code here)
- JCU — a web-based Prolog environment.
- snap-pastie another pastebin.
- snapframework.com the Snap home page.
- Silk — a new way to create and consume content.
- Karamaan Group — uses Snap for an internal company intranet.
- Haskellers uses Yesod: https://github.com/snoyberg/haskellers
- Braden Shepherdson made an AJAX chat application using Yesod.
- Björn Buckwalter made a URL shortener using Yesod.
- TKYProf — a ghc profiling visualizer
- Orange Roster — Open source, privacy-centric shared address book.
- hledger-web — The web interface for the hledger accounting tool.
- Urban Listings — A free listing website for the South African property market.
- Luach — English and Hebrew anniversary reminders.
- Haskellers — Professional network of Haskell programmers.
- packdeps — Track outdated Hackage dependencies.
- yackage — A personal Hackage serving for testing new packages.
- Kestrel — A Wiki clone. This site has been published as a home customized to a university department (Seitoku University Junior College).
- Buccaneer Battle — A multi-player game in the browser: as the captain of a pirate ship, try to sink your opponent!
- Personal site of Patrick Brisbin — might be of interest for those wanting to create a blog.
- Personal site of Blake Rain
- Personal site of Pascal Wittmann
6 Repositories and Installation
I am running Ubuntu 10.04.
$ ghc --version The Glorious Glasgow Haskell Compilation System, version 6.12.3 $ cabal --version cabal-install version 0.10.2 using version 220.127.116.11 of the Cabal library $ cabal-dev install happstack … Registering happstack-6.0.5... real 2m13.240s user 1m38.886s sys 0m7.588s
Installs fine in GHC 6.12.3 in a couple of minutes.
The web site Download page advises to install the snap package from Hackage:
$ ghc --version The Glorious Glasgow Haskell Compilation System, version 6.12.3 $ cabal --version cabal-install version 0.10.2 using version 18.104.22.168 of the Cabal library $ cabal-dev install snap … Registering snap-0.7... real 5m1.105s user 4m24.369s sys 0m15.389s
Installs fine in GHC 6.12.3 in a couple of minutes.
The web site advises to install the yesod package from Hackage.
$ ghc --version The Glorious Glasgow Haskell Compilation System, version 6.12.3 $ cabal --version cabal-install version 0.10.2 using version 22.214.171.124 of the Cabal library $ time cabal-dev install yesod Resolving dependencies... cabal: cannot configure conduit-0.0.1.1. It requires base >=4.3 && <5 For the dependency on base >=4.3 && <5 there are these packages: base-126.96.36.199, base-188.8.131.52, base-184.108.40.206 and base-220.127.116.11. However none of them are available.
This was anticipated in the documentation, (“If you want to install yesod painlessly, get ghc >= 7.” from the install help wiki page. ) so the behaviour is expected.
chris@cn-done:~/yesod$ export PATH=/opt/ghc/7.0.4/bin/:$PATH chris@cn-done:~/yesod$ ghc --version The Glorious Glasgow Haskell Compilation System, version 7.0.4 chris@cn-done:~/yesod$ cabal install Cabal cabal-install --bindir=/opt/ghc/7.0.4/bin … Linking dist/build/cabal/cabal ... Installing executable(s) in /opt/ghc/7.0.4/bin chris@cn-done:~/yesod$ cabal --version cabal-install version 0.10.2 using version 18.104.22.168 of the Cabal library
So I'm now on 7.0.4 with the latest cabal installed for 7.0.4. Proceeding should work:
$ time cabal-dev install yesod … Registering yesod-0.9.4.1... real 8m55.781s user 7m2.446s sys 0m21.809s
Installs with no problems as the guide suggests.