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= Yi ideas =
This page is meant to gather ideas people have for
[http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~dons/yi.html Yi], an extensible editor
written in Haskell.
== Emacs ==
== About ==
Coming from an Emacs background, the current version of Yi lacks a few
Yi is a text editor written in Haskell and extensible in Haskell.
things I think are essential, mainly the introspection capabilities
of Emacs. One of the main problems is that Yi is based on purely
compiled code --- there is little or no interaction with the run-time
Ideally, the next version of Yi would be based on a (modified?)
== External links ==
version of GHCi, maybe taking advantage of package GHC.
=== Emacs goodness ===
* Website: http://yi-editor.github.io/
* Repository: https://github.com/yi-editor/yi
The following are things I like about Emacs, as an extensible
* Hackage page: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/yi
* IRC channel: #yi on Freenode
; Really good online documentation
: Emacs can tell you a lot about a function or variable with a keypress--- the current value, where it is declared, and a hypertext formation string
; Extensibility
: All (good) apps allow users to extend, through, e.g., hooks --- a list of functions that are run before/after some event (like saving a file)
; Integration
: It is really easy in Emacs to have one package interact with another. Thus, I can, e.g., insert a new appointment from my mail app into the diary.
; Everything is One Language
: Ignoring the actual language (Lisp!), everything is handled in a uniform language --- from binding keys to writing apps.
; Easy to start hacking
: I can start playing with the system from the second I start up, and things pretty much work as expected. I.e., I can type a bit of code in, execute it, and the result is displayed in the minibuffer. The good docs help immeasurably.
; Written for the frequent user
: Lots of key shortcuts (and famous for it). There are still menus, for those who like em, but you aren't forced to pretend you just started using it.
; A tonne of code
: Well, Haskell has this to some degree. Haskell is (IMHO) much easier to write than ELisp, so maybe people will be encouraged to contribute.
=== Emacs badness ===
So, why replace it?:
; ELisp
: Dynamically scoped, Dynamically typed, ugly, old. 'Nuff said
; What's a Parser?
: A lot of apps in emacs do stuff with text, usually text that is in some language. There is no standard parser (like, e.g. parsec), so a lot of it is ugly handwritten spaghetti. This also means that adding analysis tools isn't really done (or done nicely).
; ELisp again
: Haskell is a lot cleaner to write, especially because of the large number of libraries.
=== Emacs maybeness (?) ===
Some things that are sometimes bad, sometimes good:
; Everything is a buffer
: Makes some sense, but sometimes doesn't. It is nice to have uniform key bindings do the right thing (e.g., C-Space sets the mark, and the region can then be used, e.g. to delete a sequence of emails in Wl) Sometimes, however, you just want some sort of GUI widget.
: OTOH, having the minibuffer be a special kind of buffer is a good idea.
; Properties
: It is possible to associate arbitrary properties with symbols. This means you can annotate a symbol and then use that information at a later date
== Vi ? ==
What about vi? I believe we want Yi to subsume vi as well.
== Yi ==
Annoying stuff with the current implementation:
*Does not support all terminals properly (e.g. Meta on gnome-terminal)
*Is quite dependent on terminal (gtk port not easy)
*System of windows is strange. A lot of the cursor-logic is spread in many modules
*Throwing exception for switching keymap is ugly
*Keymaps take a [Char] as input, with this or that bit set for indication of meta and control. This is somewhat ugly, and certainly lacks a bit of strongness in typing.
== Ideas ==
;Yi should include GHCi
:like emacs includes a elisp interpreter.
;An extension to GHCi to support documentation of symbols.
:This seems to be (reasonably) straightforward, as GHCi already has :info. It would mean hacking the type environment (what about values?) to add documentation information. The main problem would seem to be populating this --- maybe hack haddock to produce something from the library docs? I assume that using package GHC uses the parent RTS (package GHC seems to be the way to go, but more investigation is required --- don?)
;Intermixed compiled/interpreted code
:(for speed/hacking)
;GUI abstraction
:want it to work on terminals as well as X
:#Use Stefan O'Rear's vty. for terminal. http://members.cox.net/stefanor/vty/
:#Use gtk2hs for X http://haskell.org/gtk2hs/
;Views on data
:Rather than just editing a file, you would open a view onto the file, i.e. there is no longer a 1-1 correspondence between buffers and files. Why? Well, for aggregate buffers (i.e., editing multiple files in the one view), or for multiple views of a file (e.g. AST and source-level). There would be some primitive ops for editing a buffer (insertChar, delete, etc.), which would then call update functions on anything observing that file.
;Remote attach so I can work from home, but still use a remote machine
;Haddock documentation
:(no brainer), maybe associate with .hi files for binaries.
;A class MiniBufferRead (or PromptingRead) which allows the user to
invoke a function similar to M-x in Emacs, but without requiring
:-- This is incomprehensibe, would the original author elaborate?
;Maybe a class YiShow, which all config items must be a member of? This is to emulate describe-variable
== Implementation ==
; Configuration
: Per mode/file/buffer/whatever Monads, or reload/recompile? Or some hybrid? How does this interact with the documentation aspects? Do we want to have separate sorts of symbols a la emacs (describe-function, describe-variable), or is everything a function? I would think that configuration info doesn't change that frequently --- is this globally true though?
:We can probably use a GHCi-like "let". Rebinding a function would then be synonym to assign a variable, thereby achieve unification between functions and variables.
; Interface to the runtime
: The scheduler, docs, etc.
; Introspection of e.g. what processes are running.
: There are already libraries in Haskell for processes, but they don't give Yi any extra information --- we really want a layer on top.
[[User:Sjw|Sjw]] 09:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

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Yi is a text editor written in Haskell and extensible in Haskell.

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